Penrith: This was probably one of the greatest teams of all times, and it was one of the greatest duals of all times.

Announcer: Iowa lining up at the mat ha s won 36 straight dual meets.

I remember covering the meet.

I remember just the din of of excitement and passion and noise in Hilton that day.

There's pressure on you, as an Iowa wrestler.

This is the second chance for the Cyclones.

The only loss was to Iowa.

I grew up in Alabama.

I get interstate rivalries.

I was weaned on Alabama and Auburn.

If you could take a guy down and if you could get away, you could beat anybody.

The Hawks are on the board for the first time, if you can believe it.

If you just tuned in, that's a fact.

Hilton was definitely rocking that night.

I remember pulling my headgear away from my head because it was so loud in Hilton of people cheering against you.

The crowd is on its feet at Hilton Coliseum.

In order to beat a team like Iowa, you've got to put up Iowa-type points.

They needed to win this one.

They can win this meet.

You don't want to cost anybody a match, so you read the rule book and you know what the rules are.

Let me think.

Let me think it through.

Let me think it through.

I understood the passions, and I had an inkling of the importance of wrestling to the state of Iowa.

Whichever team you're from, it's just good wrestling.

A lot of people are going to wish they were here.

There are so many things that happened with this dual that are interesting, because there's things that are real and oh, maybe they're real or maybe they're not.

I'm not ever going to tell the truth on exactly.

♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ It's college wrestling tonight from Hilton Coliseum in Ames, Iowa.

Iowa Public Television Sports brings you the 11th and final broadcast in our college wrestling series, culminating with the number one ranked Iowa Hawkeyes versus the number two Iowa State Cyclones.

And a glance at their season record shows just how strong these two squads are.

Iowa has been totally unstoppable the past two seasons, and Iowa State's only loss this year came to the Hawks in Iowa City.

Good evening, everybody.

I'm Doug Brown with Chuck Patten.

And C.P., we're happy to be bringing this 10th anniversary season to people.

We've enjoyed it a great deal.

Yes, we certainly have.

And later in the show, we're going to give -- Iowa State rivalry, the importance of the sport in the state, what Iowa Public Television meant to all of us, because that was the only show in town.

That's the only time you saw wrestling.

Maybe you get a glimpse of the nationals for a hiccup or something on ABC Sports, but not much.

So this was it.

And they were well known for this, and to put this in the spotlight of those two teams with, you know, you look at the credentials of those guys and I'm not sure there's ever been, ever has been or will be a dual meet with that many credentialed guys ever again.

It's just be hard to do.

For the last 35 years, I'm still a sportswriter, mostly covering college football for newspapers, Sports Illustrated and ESPN.

I'm a young fact checker.

I'm trying to climb my way up the Sports Illustrated ladder, so it was up to us to find events that were interesting, but that the big guys didn't want to cover.

So you're always on the lookout, and I somehow stumble upon Iowa and Iowa State, number one and number two interstate rivals.

Iowa was the King, and Iowa State was trying to knock them off.

And it's only appropriate that we finish this season with the two top teams, and they definitely are.

They've been the top, dominant teams in this sport since the late '60s.

Well, yes, 15 out of the last 17 national championships have been won by these two teams.

And of course, everybody knows Iowa is on a roll.

They've won 10 out of 11 themselves.

Probably pulled away from the pack as much as any team ever.

They now have established a clear dominance between everybody in themselves.

Iowa comes in and they had a swagger about them.

I mean, this was, you know, they're wearing black.

They all looked like they had been, you know, cut out of a bodybuilding magazine.

They were the Yankees.

I guess, for the mid 1980s, they were the Bears, right?

I mean, nobody could beat them, nobody had beaten them.

We're looking for outstanding matches up and down the line in what is always an interesting interstate rivalry, and one in which very strange things happen from time to time.

It's Iowa and Iowa State, and earlier, I had a chance to talk with both coaches about tonight's big dual.

Well, we're hoping that we can go out there and wrestle somewhat of the pace that we've established since the Iowa meet.

We've wrestled Wisconsin, Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma, U&I, and we've really put it to them, I thought, as far as the pace of the match, and we want to go out there and do that again this time, and I think we'll see a closer meet.

I feel the crowd will help.

It's a lot better having 15,000 people cheering for you than against you.

Well, I guess it'd be nice to start out this similar fashion, because momentum in wrestling sometimes carries a big weight.

And right here in Hilton Coliseum, it'd be nicer to have the momentum going our way at the beginning, because once it gets switched around the other way, it's gonna be more difficult than it would if it was at Iowa.

So right now, we're going to have to just wrestle on the strength of our team in the beginning, and hopefully, that my kids are good enough to be able to start that dominance off at the beginning.

But this is the kind of meet that really, even if you do lose or upset somewhere, somebody else could upset the other guy.

So the way I'm looking at is, hope to have a good total meet, but we'll have to wait and see.

Brown: It's Iowa versus Iowa State, coming up next on Iowa Public Television.

No, I think that our guys were wrestling better.

We had to make it -- We wanted to find out for ourselves whether we were the team that got lit up, lost 7-3, or we're the team that been keeping pace with them since we went against Iowa.

Because just, nothing was going to be given, and so it was a lot of anticipation.

I like the look of my eyes in that picture.

We're ready to go, and I felt like if I could do anything as a leader at that point, it was to project that confidence, because we weren't going to concede anything ourselves.

But I look back at myself then, now, I think I chose a direction that gave them too much freedom, and they probably, to this day, needed me to step up a little bit at that time.

And I probably wasn't who I should have been.

Maybe when I was training, probably for the Worlds and Olympics, you know, that type of stuff.

But we were still winning, winning pretty big, and the little glitches that were happening, uh, I wasn't worrying about them enough.

And there's still -- I probably should have done some more things about about those glitches.

I could have done a better job there, would have saved a lot of headaches, I think.

But at the same time, you got to learn.

And, you know, I learned from Owings and the next year, I learned, took, you know -- I don't know how much I learned that '86 year.

I think I learned some things right off of that dual.

But all of a sudden, things came back good again, so... Wouldn't you say that there are actually three categories now -- there's Iowa, and then there's Iowa State, which has pulled away from everybody else too.

Well, that's true, and I think a lot of the credit there goes to Jim Gibbons, the new head coach at Iowa State.

What he's done is he's taken a staff of young coaches.

He's put Ed Benning coming over from Iowa, Kevin Darkus just out of the ranks as a competitor, Les Anderson after 18 years an assistant, and he's taken those men, put them together into a staff, and that staff has given the young wrestlers from Iowa State renewed enthusiasm, a new kind of spirit, and it's beginning to show.

And I think nobody appreciates that more than the big rival over in Iowa City, Dan Gable, who's here today.

Well, that's true, and Dan really likes to have competition.

He's got it now.

of course, you know, if there was going to be a national poker game in wrestling, Dan Gable would want to be at the table, because he's used to picking up all the chips this time of year.

Oh, this is the big season for Dan.

Now, the last time he won big.

He had a 25-9 win down at Iowa City.

Well that's true, that was a big win, but there were a lot of close matches in there.

Some of those things could turn around this time.

I'm anticipating a lot of close matches again.

And we've got some lineup changes now.

We have a new 26-pounder for Iowa... [ Traffic in distance ] What Dan didn't know was that I was about ready to interview for the Iowa State job.

I was 25 at the time, I think, and they asked me to get -- Phil Haddy says, "Hey, let's get one rental car and we'll just go up together."

It was an hour and a half ride up the mountains, and so I got there in the car, got my bag in the back seat, and I said, "What the heck?

This is my chance to learn from the master."

So I just put my elbows up on the two chair or the two seats in the car, and I just started asking you every question I could about your program, how you're running it, running your camps, everything that you would need to know as a head coach.

But the big thing that that I took away from that, that was just I couldn't believe it -- and we talked about that earlier -- is that I asked, "Hey, coach, what's going on in your program?

What's really making the difference?"

And the first thing out of Dan's mouth was, "Well, we have a great athletic director."

And I'm going, you could have said staff, would I do my training, my recruiting, everything else that goes along with the great parts of a program.

But the first thing out of his mouth was, he said something nice about Bump Elliot and what a great job that he was for you, working for.

And I never ignored that from the rest of my -- And every time I was in Bump Elliott's presence after that, I sought him out, because I wanted to know why a guy like you, with all your accomplishments, could have such great affection and say that in that moment.

We're on this ride and you're in the back seat.

You're talking to me.

If I'd have been a little smarter, now that I know a lot of stuff, in that ride, I might not have opened up as much as I should have.

But I do remember at the state tournament, after I got the job, they announced it before the state tournament, and I'm sitting by myself in Veterans Auditorium at the end zone, and I'm like, 16 rows up where nobody would really look for me.

But you found me, and he comes running up to me and he doesn't say much of anything, although he comes up to me, he points his finger at me and says, "I told you too much."

Hey, he was behind me.

I couldn't read his face.

I didn't know he was driving forward and wanted to kick my butt, but you know what?

Again, you go back, you learn a lesson.

So I got to, from now on, know who's in the back seat a little better than I did at that time.

Brown: We ll, I think that Iowa State le arned a lot from this meet.

And likewise, so did Iowa.

Iowa State has a real good idea now of what their young men have to do against the outstanding.

But more importantly, Iowa now knows they got to get th ese guys in shape.

They had a lot of tired wrestlers.

Revert it back to the January meet, and I remember in those matches, we were close, but we would lose them by a point or 2 or 3, and I knew how close our wrestlers were to be able to win against Iowa, but they just weren't there yet.

And so heading into this meet, if they didn't focus on winning and losing, just what they needed to do to score a takedown, what they needed to do to get an escape, what they needed to do to do the fundamentals, they would be successful, and the winning or losing the dual meet would take care of itself.

When you're wrestling as well as we had wrestled all year round, you don't change it.

It's not broke, you don't fix it.

So we're going into this, another match, You know, we were pretty dominant in the first meet.

But it is Iowa State, and we know it's different.

You just can't say it's another match.

It's not just another match.

It's Iowa State.

And they had a great team, obviously, and I think he just went in there expecting to win.

You know, you say different things to your team than you say to the press.

We all do that as head coaches, and not sure where his mindset was at the time.

But, you know, Gable expects to win 100% of the time, every match, every meet.

I mean, you beat a team 25-9 a month before and you're cruising.

You're still pretty confident.

And I can tell right there, I didn't plan on losing that night.

I can tell that right now.

At that point, ready to see whether we were the team that got beat before or whether the team that we showed up as in the following month, and we thought it was more of the latter.

And for us, you know, Iowa had won eight national titles in a row at that point in time.

And at some point in time, it almost turned over where the pressure was not only on -- but I think you felt a lot of confidence, and you were able to go ahead and get over your bad moments.

But the team that was the team to challenge you guys, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, whatever, Oklahoma when they came back with 10 All-Americans, they started feeling the pressure.

And I think that that's what -- We didn't have that sort of confidence or swagger yet, but we did know that we'd get to wrestle Iowa in our home arena, and we were as ready as we could be.

We probably wrestled as well as we did at any point in time in the season.

It wasn't a surprise to Jim, I don't think, because he talked like he expected, you know, maybe not to win the match, but to certainly compete better than the first time that we wrestled him in a dual.

Being from Iowa, realizing I know what they're going through.

I know what we need to be going through in order to win.

And I thought we had done enough, and the match will tell us if we did or not.

I must have been overconfident a little bit.

I shouldn't have been, because I just believe our lightweight, Matt Egeland, just made weight late, I believe.

Probably made weight about a half hour before that interview.

And so we usually weigh in five hours ahead, and I think we just weighed in, like, the hour before, the last time you could, or up to the half hour before.

♪♪ [ Cheering ] Brown: Boy, you don't think th is crowd is up now?

Patten: I think it's just the beginning.

At 118 pounds, here we go.

Everybody knows how important th ese first matches are.

You've seen whole meets swing on what happened at 118 pounds.

That's right.

A lot of times when you get a big crowd at home, that's what makes the difference.

We have a microphone, as you know, past watching, on Phil Henning.

It's Matt Egeland of Iowa ranked number 8, do wn at 118 for good now, against Perry Summitt.

We know that Egeland had a little trouble ma king weight today.

That was an extremely long day.

Had a lot of trouble cutting weight.

I was empty in the head.

I was tired.

Went through a lot of physical stress, had the opportunity to make weight.

An hour later, I was on the mat, wrestling him.

Matt Egeland I remember, you know, he had placed second in the NCAA the previous year.

During that time, I knew that he was having trouble making weight.

So, you know, I knew he was very slick on his feet and a hard wrestler and very physical, but I knew that my job was to go out and push him as hard as I could.

That was his first time do wn at 118 pounds.

Well, this is almost going to be like the first time.

When he was 4 or 5 pounds over weight to start with, he's going to have a little bit of trouble being able to replenish that fluid supply, get himself back in here and get going.

We'll see.

He tends to be a fast starter.

He likes to get out and get his points early, as he did the last time.

He's not starting that fast this time.

Maybe he's going to try to conserve.

And of course, that never works.

When you're out there, it's the same as if you're going hard or you're going easy.

Summitt, you can see tr ying to legsweep.

He's a thrower from up high.

Egeland is more of a low shots man like that.

He's in deep right there.

Just missed the leg.

He went in so far, he missed the leg.

Now Summitt has a good high -- Egeland had some slick stuff.

I mean, he got in deep there.

I was pretty lucky to be on the edge.

Everybody was there to get you, everybody.

You know, he got me out of position off two-on-ones a couple times, really slick.

I don't even know...

It ended up like, in a double-leg position, but almost like a boot scooter.

I don't even know how to explain it.

It was just really slick, though.

Nice level change.

But yeah, he was a really physical wrestler.

Egeland, as you know, ha s had an up and down year, most of it at 126, but last ye ar, he was a runner up in the nationals at this weight.

[ Whistle blows ] When he gets down and stays down, he's a tenacious competitor.

Henning: Back off the edge, guys.

Man: Good shot, good shot!

[ Whistle blows ] First period, 118 pounds, the Cyclones and the Hawkeyes.

I just remember the coaches coming around and rallying around and just saying, "Hey, you know, you were right there with him."

The strategy was to go out and to push him hard and just wrestle my match.

Barry Summitt's come on very well for Iowa State this year.

He's put himself in the picture now as the man, likes this weight, likes it at Iowa State after transferring from Northern Iowa.

He's a man to really threaten a lot of people, even though he's not in the rankings.

He's in the right program with the right coaches, having a guy like Darkus and the rest of them every day -- You've got 44 seconds riding time!

You've got riding time, 44 seconds.

You heard Dan tell Egeland how much riding time Summitt has, so he'll probably try to ride for a while and erase a little bit of it and maybe get some back points if he can.

3-3 score.

That's Perry Summitt, who comes from Bloomington, Indiana.

He knows what he has to do here.

Now, what do you want to do is keep that arm free, make Egeland move up off the legs and then get to his feet and score the point.

4-3 now after that, Summitt leads by one.

It depends on what happens on their feet.

Now, they've split takedowns so far.

A lot is gonna depend on attitude right here.

Maybe the crowd at home could overhear Coach Gable say, "Egeland, you got to be tough right now."

Beautiful try at a fireman's carry, but he couldn't make it work either time.

Referee Phil Henning says they're out of bounds.

I just remember that he had gotten tired and, you know, was struggling to get through the whole match.

So that was my cue to put the pedal to the metal next time.

Yeah, and I can relate to the weight cut, and you know, I didn't finish out my career at Iowa State.

I left.

It wasn't going to get any better for me after winning that title, and I couldn't make the weight again.

You know, I was beat up, and I totally get it.

Important starting matches.

Time remaining about a minute in the second period.

Summitt leads, has a strong front headlock.

He does have th e front headlock position.

But a beautiful outside parry!

Egeland was caught!

[ Cheers and applause ] [ Whistle blows ] The pin!

[ Cheers and applause ] The way that the meet unfolded, with Iowa State coming right out of the gate with Summitt's pin, that meant that the excitement in Hilton was not going to dim anytime soon.

Hey, you know, this, if this happens, this is going to be a much bigger story than I expected, and I might get in the front of the magazine.

I've already got the story written in my head, but, you know, the match wasn't over.

That's Perry Summitt of Iowa State!

And now we go to 126.

Brad Penrith of Iowa ag ainst Bill Kelly, two tough guys.

Bill Kelly, Belly, whatever you want to call him.

Kelly has the single leg.

He has the takedown.

Announcer: And it's a takedown!

This is going to be a tough match.

Gibbons: He had a couple of tricks.

I didn't find out about those tricks until a year later.

[ Whistle blows ] He let him go!

Yeah.

He didn't hang on.

Well, I'm glad.

And really, to be honest with you, in the total scheme of things, I'm glad he didn't get it, right?

Because that gave us -- You didn't go back to the wrestling room and work on getting out of the splay hold.

No, no, I didn't.

Probably just went back and worked on who was going to wrestle at 126.

Patten: Now see, Penrith got into the crotch.

Now he can start to use that leverage against Kelly.

Wanted to keep those hips down low.

Now the question is, is Penrith in a good enough position to avoid back points here?

He's trying to reverse Kelly.

Well, Kelly really isn't putting him there.

Penrith's pulling himself on around here.

Depends on whether he can get that arm off the leg or not.

You can see his hand coming through to take it off.

If he gets that, he's going to end up with a reversal on it.

Kelly keeps the hips down low, he's got a chance.

Penrith: You know, Bill had a great reputation of being kind of a hard-nosed kid.

A guy on my team who was a senior beat Bill in a dual earlier, so it was actually added pressure onto me that I had to go in there and perform, you know, just to keep the spot on the team and, you know, I was ready to go.

Gable had us ready to go.

I just didn't go on and perform.

I just didn't do it.

Here we are at Hilton Coliseum.

That's Dan Gable.

He just saw his 118-pounder, Matt Egeland, get pinned to start the meet.

Perry Summitt caught Egeland in a try for a carry, got him flat on his back, and here we are at 126.

Kelly leads 2-0 over Brad Penrith.

Penrith is undefeated.

Henning: Iowa State, you got to move up.

Well, we saw this same thing here just a second ago, and he put himself back in.

I don't think Coach Gable is going to want him to be there very much.

Now he's into the pride where he's got the head levered with the back of the elbow, and he's under the arm.

One, two, three.

Four, five... That count is to tell Kelly that he's going to have to move or we're going to stalemate the position.

Stalemate.

He'll let them get there again, but it won't last too long.

That's Matt Egeland.

He had trouble making weight today.

I don't know as that made the difference in the match, but it might have, had it gone on.

But he put himself in that spot to get trapped, and then it was over.

Here's Kelly trying to get a tilt on Penrith.

Penrith managed to fight out of it.

Kelly's doing it.

He's keeping him where he wants him.

He's keeping him down on the mat.

The 26-pound match between Kelly and Penrith is one that probably should strike some of the Iowa fans as a familiar name, because Penrith coached at Northern Iowa for a number of years after he got out of school.

This is Brad Penrith, he's a good, tall, angular-type sophomore from Windsor, New York.

Henning: One, two, three, four.

He's a two-time state champion, so he's accustomed to tight matches, this big when there's this much pressure.

He's never been there where he had to win because they're down by 6.

You sometimes can tell how an athlete will wrestle.

Two, three.

Trying to do something more, make something else go.

Change his position a little bit, takes the leg out and that gets the referee away from him.

Yes, it does.

He has more than 2 1/2 minutes of riding time.

But he hasn't been able to make the work yet, because Kelly knows it's coming, he feels it.

Penrith isn't getting his hips down and out on that switch.

Well, Kelly got a takedown with 13 seconds gone in the match and he's ridden Penrith all the way since.

Only six seconds remain in the first period.

Top man, you're on.

Done a great job so far in this match.

Iowa State 6, Iowa 0, after a big upset fall by Perry Summitt at 118 pounds over Egeland.

[ Buzzer sounds ] First period ends.

Kelly 2, Penrith 0.

Gibbons: But in Bill Kelly, you almost had the perfect mix, a guy that had great defense, but would take you down, would ride you, and more than anything else, he was very skilled at getting out from underneath, so he could really conserve energy in matches.

I think he had a little bit of an edge going into this match, and I think it showed, but he showed how skilled he was in the top position, being able to control Penrith and really take it to him in his first match out in a big meet.

Henning: What'd you choose?

Down.

Iowa State takes down.

Patten: Alright.

Well, this is a spot where Penrith feels comfortable.

He's a good top man.

He likes the leg as well.

Part of the reason he's been so successful this year is he's good on top.

We'll see what he likes to do.

He likes to come in this cross reach.

You see him come across, then puts the legs on, reaches across and blocks the arm, then gets the leg in.

He's pretty, pretty successful.

He's got a lot of length.

Brown: Locks up a cradle now on Kelly, on the far side.

He pulled that out of there, because Kelly started to control the leg.

One, two, three, four.

Brad Penrith, sophomore at Iowa.

[ Whistle blows ] Stalemate.

He took over this position from Paul Glenn.

And Glenn is having a great year.

He moved in there after Egeland went down.

He'd gone undefeated until lost this match in a tryout.

Tells you something about the competition in that wrestling room.

It certainly does.

Neither one of them was the man who started here.

Egeland was up there at the beginning of the season.

Now, Kelly made a big first move!

Now, what he has is he's got his hips up on top.

Penrith's got his hips on the bottom.

No good legger wants to be under, hips down.

They always want that belly button up on top and toward the mat.

I see him trying to pull himself up out of there.

Kelly knows he's got to bring his hips across.

And a reversal for Kelly, leads 4-0.

Can't put the leg back in himself, Doug.

Man: Get a hand.

Tighten the hand.

He kept backing through that position until he finally made it work.

It's now 4-0 and Kelly has a lot of riding time.

Well, this is where they know Penrith, he started into that switch just a little bit too soon.

Kelly still has the leg track up.

He's not popping that thing.

There, he forced himself.

That's a reversal.

So they've traded reversals here, and Kelly still leads by 2, 4-2.

This is Iowa and Iowa State.

It's 6-0 Iowa State after one match.

A pin for Summitt at 118 over Egeland.

This is Kelly and Penrith at 126.

We have Jeff Gibbons and Greg Randall next.

Iowa Public Television from Hilton Coliseum.

I'm Doug Brown with Chuck Patten, who for many years was coach at the University of Northern Iowa.

Riding 2:03 for Kelly.

Penrith is on top with about 20 seconds left to go in the second period.

He put himself in this spot last time and Kelly came across him.

He jumped himself right back in there again.

You can see Kelly trying to pull him down.

Just didn't make it this time.

You know, you can't take a leg here and try to do that too often, because he feels where you're going.

There's just not enough time for Kelly to get out here.

[ Buzzer sounds ] Second period ends, 4-2.

Riding time has slipped to about 1:42.

Penrith has his choice this time, and he's going down.

That match, you know, he did a very solid job of wrestling, very controlled, and I was a scrambler and I was a switch, a roller, and he did a very good job of controlling my hips.

And maybe there was a little panic in my part, but he did a really good job of controlling me and some of the positions that I considered myself pretty good at.

Henning: Three, four.

Patten: This eats up a lot of time.

You hear the referee counting.

Stalemate on the legs.

Two of a kind, aren't they?

They like to get in with those legs and pour on the coals.

Eats up a lot of time and not much is happening, because both of them know.

They'll get on you pretty quick for putting the legs in, unless you can use them.

We heard right there what the referee's thinking.

"I'm going to call you for stalling if you keep doing that."

So neither man knows.

Neither man can go anyplace, because the other guy's got him blocked out.

Hilton Coliseum.

We have about 1:30 to go at 126 pounds.

[ Whistle blows ] Now we're going to get a warning.

Top man is stalling.

He's not returning to the mat.

He's holding on.

Iowa, you're down.

First warning of the meet so far.

Iowa State won the first match 6-0.

Actually lead 6-0 on a fall by Summitt.

Mark Johnson, assistant coach next to Dan Gable.

Kelly gets the leg in again.

Well, he's done a good job of stopping Penrith and then blocking him, and Penrith hasn't reacted to the legs very well.

It's like he doesn't know exactly where he wants to go, and it's given Kelly an opportunity to be effective here.

[ Whistle blows ] Stalemate.

Stalemate.

Back to the center again with about a minute to go.

I was really impressed with Kelly.

I thought he did a great job of taking away a quality high school athlete that has now into a college program with one of the premier coaches in the world coaching it, and so he took it away from him.

Kelly just wrestled a real solid match, took Penrith's stuff away and put himself in a position to win that.

It ended up being crucial.

It's very important for Iowa State to do well in these opening.

They couldn't do better than they did at 118.

They got they got them right where they want him right now.

And they need a win from Kelly to give themselves a chance, because there are some weights up higher for where Iowa is definitely favored.

One, two.

Now the referee's counting again, and Kelly is trying very hard to bring him to the mat.

He's in a real good position right here as long as he keeps the hips down, his hips.

[ Cheers and applause ] And Penrith is trying to switch or at least get out of bounds, I think now, with only a half minute left.

Well, even if he can just let him stay in here, even if he gets the reversal, it just eats up a lot of time.

Now let's set it up for you again.

It's 4-2.

It's a 2-point lead, but Kelly will have the extra point.

Let's just say 5-2 because he has the riding time point.

So Penrith has to get 3 points somewhere for a draw.

He's too tired to be effective with his moves, Doug.

But stalling can make a difference.

Kelly doesn't want to get called for stalling.

[ Cheers and applause ] Potentially dangerous on the knees, but there are only five seconds to go.

He's got this one in the bag.

[ Cheering ] Well, five seconds is five seconds.

Some things can happen.

Things happen, you know?

He's a cool competitor, though.

He understands what he's got to do.

And there it is.

With riding time, it's a 3-point win for Kelly, 5-2 over Penrith.

And Iowa State is already well ahead of where they were in Iowa City.

It's the Cyclones 9, the Hawkeyes 0 after two matches.

I remember Billy said something to me.

I can't remember what it was.

I just remember just going, man, just a relief.

And I felt like we got to, you know, my job was to get the train rolling and it just happened, so...

So after the match, Matt Egeland ended up losing, and I went on and wrestled and I lost.

And Gable comes up to me and goes, get your running gear on.

And I'm looking at him going, "What?"

He goes, "Get your running gear on."

So I put my gray cottons on and I put my tennis shoes on and I went up to him, I believe Greg Randall, and go, "Okay."

He goes -- pointing like this.

And I'm looking up at the crowd and he goes, "Let's go.

Go do a lap."

So me and Matt started running up the Hilton Coliseum.

16,000 people, and the problem was, when you got to the top, you couldn't cross, so he had to go up and back down, run across, back up all the way around.

And the whole time -- remember, I just lost -- people were saying stuff to me saying, "Hey, really good match, Penrith.

Hey, welcome to Hilton Coliseum."

I mean, the great thing about the Cyclone fan base, they're very respectful.

They like great wrestling.

They like good wrestling.

So they were needling me and they were saying stuff to me, but it wasn't like when I went to Oklahoma State.

The verbiage was different.

It was more that they were harassing me, but it wasn't mean.

I mean, I got some good ones.

I got some zingers at me, but afterwards, we got done, and I'm -- frustrating loss.

Now he's going to make me do this.

Then we get done and he comes up.

We got done, it's like he was watching us.

I don't know how long he'd been watching us.

We got a dual meet going on.

I didn't see any of the matches.

He comes up and he goes, "Let's go.

15 minutes sprints out in front of the concession stands."

And I was like, "Are you kidding me?"

So we went out and we ran 15 minutes of sprints out in front of the concession stands.

That's crazy.

♪♪ The Hawks aren't accustomed to this.

No, and it makes it interesting for everybody here.

Everybody knows that Iowa is tough up the way, and they're tough right here too.

Number three-ranked Greg Randall goes against Jeff Gibbons at 134.

The last time out, Randall won 8-3.

But Gibbons in that match showed a lot to a lot of people.

134, Jeff Gibbons.

Jeff did a tremendous job.

I mean, he was fresh.

He was tough.

He was hard.

And he made Randall go the whole match.

Randall's got all the success, all the background, the history, yet Jeff Gibbons wrestled him.

Even though the score wasn't indicative of how tough the match was, I was really proud of, I mean, I'm sure Jim was of his brother, because he just was a goer.

And that's hard for kids to do, is to come out there and think that, "I belong here" with a guy that's a runner-up, and I'm just a freshman.

He didn't look at it that way at all.

He was a real stallion for that Iowa State team.

[ Whistle blows ] Jeff Gibbons is a redshirt freshman.

Two-time state champion.

Greg Randall, as you know, was a four-time high school champion.

Well, he's going to have to get some offense going now.

You know, you get caught up in the match you're in.

Now Randall's in here with Jeff Gibbons.

There, he does that little pitch.

You saw him move those hips.

Did he call a score or not?

[ Crowd booing ] Well, we didn't get a chance to see it.

The coaches from Iowa right there.

Henning: Hold it.

His feet was off, but the shoulders were still in.

Okay, just a second.

Now, let me think, let me think.

Let me think it through.

Let me think it through.

Great call, Phil.

I mean, that took guts.

Probably one of the best calls I've ever seen in Iowa Public Television by Phil Henning.

My foot went off.

Jeff's feet were out, but his shoulders were in.

The feet were out.

[ TV broadcast playing ] Yeah, I was right.

That was a good call.

Right there, he's off, off.

Now he's on.

This side.

Okay, here we get an update.

It wasn't total control there.

Now watch.

You see, both men go outside.

So you're both out of bounds, shoulders are still in.

If he had control, you'd have gotten 2 and 2, but you didn't have the control, so you're both up.

And Gable knew that, because he wasn't off the bench.

Of course, Gibbons knew that, too, so that's why he was out trying to remind him, you were right the first time.

There you go.

Of course, if the shoulders are the supporting part while one man's in, then you can still keep it in, but they were both off, both knees out.

Randall has been very strong in this match so far.

He hasn't scored.

Just wanted somebody there for my side.

Gable wasn't there.

He didn't stand up.

Gable and Gibbons were like, toe-to-toe.

It's like, "That was -- That was Randall's place!"

He said, "Gibbons!"

You know, who'd have won?

And if you look at Jeff's reaction and look my reaction, it's just like, I accepted it.

Let's get back.

He got in quickly that time for a 2, a quick 2.

Randall gives the Hawkeyes the lead in this match for the first time, 2-0.

Clearly, I was very fortunate we got off the mat because, quite frankly, if he doesn't make that call, I'm probably still on my back today.

The last minute or so, Gibbons has been thinking defensive.

Randall has his mind where he wants it, thinking defensively.

Even up after the escape, 2-1.

Announcer: Jeff Gibbons!

Gibbons' shots have come from a little far away.

You don't want to do that with a guy like Randall, who can react so fast.

What you said is already true.

Iowa State is starting to wrestle in defense.

A warning against Gibbons.

Now Gibbons trying to make a single leg out of this.

Well, you get there, here's another that those hips are the danger.

We know a lot of wrestlers in these two lineups, this is a spot where you can get hurt.

He's trying to get in behind.

He wants to get all the way down.

Nowadays, one person, they have one thing in and everything else could be out, and you're still going to.

Iowa State, you are one for stalling because your back was on the edge.

That's important, because next time, it's a point.

And as we saw last time in Iowa City, those little, single points can make an impact.

Splayed Russell the full period, and I don't see any sign of fatigue yet by either guy.

And they had a lot of action, a lot of action.

Right.

I had to be on my game.

My margin of error was very, very small.

He wanted to start with his hand palm down, and what he needed to do was just keep it, the hand in there with the thumb closed in.

Henning: Escape!

That's Randall's point.

3-1.

[ Cheers and applause ] 3-1 Randall at 134 pounds.

Second period riding time is negligible.

Here's, again, here's where he's dangerous.

Jeff Gibbons has been there.

Let him back in.

You can hear it, we hear the referee here tell Iowa, let Iowa State back in.

Now he is.

Edge.

[ Whistle blows ] The other way.

I was going to say.

Gibbons from Iowa State's made some good offensive moves, but he hasn't finished them.

He's going to have to go ahead and go all the way through him or he'll get caught in there.

That's where Randall so dangerous.

He's got that great balance, good hips.

See, he gets in.

He hasn't finished.

And now if he tries to get out, here's where Randall can hurt you.

He catches you trying to get up too soon, then just whips.

[ Whistle blows ] Brown: Tell you what, watching this, it's just amazing how solid Greg Randall was.

Fell to his benefit a couple of times.

He escaped being taken down because of the out-of-bounds line.

That's the first time Randall has made the move that he likes to do so well, and that's trap him then do the outside shot right there.

He tried it again.

He's into him.

Center.

He's pushing him with the underhook.

3-1 is the score, Randall over Gibbons.

The Hawk leads.

Cyclones leading the team score 9-0 at Hilton Coliseum, Iowa and Iowa State.

Now he's in again.

Single leg this time.

Going to go off again.

Awful close to the edge.

Good whizzer, though, by Gibbons.

He's not going to score this time.

We've seen him before use his head to drive you over, but if they do get a takedown now, they're going to go off.

Both up.

3-1, Randall.

Remember I said, it was 8-3 the first time they met.

It's a close match for a while and Randall put it away in the last period.

Well, Randall's done a lot of the offense in this match.

Every now and then, Jeff Gibbons will do one of those, but he's had his back to the edge a lot.

I wouldn't be surprised to see it get called unless he keeps on with those little pops.

[ Whistle blows ] Those little ones keep the referee off your back.

They're not affecting scoring.

18 seconds to go, and Gibbons will have to score.

He's down by 2.

Randall just keeps coming forward.

Probably in his mind, he's got to -- [ Cheering ] [ Whistle blows ] Wow.

Yeah.

There you go.

That got you up there.

See this?

He drops -- He's right there on the edge.

Did a good job.

Yeah.

Wow.

He caught him.

Good job to come across with that left arm.

I didn't give up that take down.

Jeff came around behind me and popped me, which knocked me down.

I didn't give up that takedown.

That was kudos for Jeff, because if you watched the match, you know I didn't.

I didn't -- even though the announcer said 2, but Jeff, it was Jeff's takedown.

There's no doubt about that.

I wouldn't have given that up.

Brown: 3-3 is the score.

Gibbons starts the third period now.

Randall on top.

[ Crowd clamoring ] Riding time is only 13 seconds, so it doesn't mean anything yet unless Randall can get a good, long ride.

Interesting with Jeff, because, you know, when he was in junior high years, we didn't know if he was going to wrestle.

And all of a sudden he made the decision to kind of get tough.

And the way he did it was really through hustle, you know?

Changing the pace of a match.

If a match wasn't going his way, he would increase, increase and increase and dictate the tempo that way.

And it really became a real solid tactic that helped him get guys out of their pace.

And, you know, that was the secret to Jeff Gibbons's approach, the wrestling all the way through his career.

30 seconds to go.

It's on the line now, that's for sure.

Iowa leads 9-0 after two big wins.

Seatbelts.

My head goes down.

Got that seatbelt.

Came to the half.

[ Whistle blows ] Scored the takedown.

Got the takedown when he had to get it.

Was able to get in close enough to be physically dominant again and prevent Gibbons from doing some of the slick moves that he's able to do.

He's asking his coaches, do I let him up or not?

He needs 30 seconds or thereabouts to score a point in riding time.

Before he catches and releases him, so they asked him to stay with him for a little while.

Randall's got to get up with that leg to secure it.

[ Whistle blows ] Out of bounds.

The clock is important here.

We have a minute to go.

44 seconds of riding time for Randall.

I wanted to make sure that they got every second.

Yeah.

Little closer than I'd like it to be.

Patten: Those 2 seconds right at the end of that one period may becomes significant.

There's that balance again, arm control.

Now he's got him locked up tight.

Probably try to keep him here for a little while.

He has a minute of riding time now.

[ Whistle blows ] Out of bounds with 40 seconds to go.

Well, neither man has let up a bit.

It's been a great match all the way through.

Greg was controlling me.

You know, I still want to be the first one back to the middle.

Going out of bounds, and he beats me back to the center.

It's like -- I wasn't going to start running back to the center.

You know, I was just going to wrestle my match, because he wasn't going to get me out of my match.

5 here against the number three man in the country, Greg Randall.

There's the whistle.

Randall just asked the referee, "What is the score?

What's the riding time?

Where are we?"

[ Whistle blows ] I still feel like I have a chance to win.

Yeah, this is a good match.

Good, tough match.

Well, we were tired.

We just weren't showing it.

What happened here?

Well, they were asking, did he lock hands?

But the referee said they were on their feet.

That's when it's okay to lock hands.

But once I knew I had the match, once I knew that I was in control, that's the only time I ran back.

It was like, 15-20 seconds left.

You know, I was up by 2.

He's not going to reverse me.

[ Cheering ] A lot of heart out there in this one.

Oh, yeah.

Gibbons now needs the reversal in order to be able to get a tie.

To get one point isn't going to help him.

They're just continuing to wrestle out of the line.

[ Crowd boos ] People don't like it.

You hear them booing, but Randall is making Gibbons wrestle that way, linear instead of circular, if that makes sense.

He's taking him to the outside, because that's where Gibbons' momentum is going.

Then when they make the move, they go out.

Same thing was happening on those takedowns earlier, only it was the other way around then.

Gibbons was wrestling out.

Randall was keeping him in.

Randall in a strong position here with only 5 seconds to go.

Trying to get back points!

He's got him over there.

[ Buzzer sounds ] Put that half on and drove into his back with it.

So it's a near fall for Randall, makes it 7-4.

Riding time makes it 8-4.

Gibbons improves by 1 point.

Oh, it was a heck of an effort, though, by Jeff Gibbons.

I mean, all that came right at the end.

He just did an outstanding job, really pushed Greg Randall all the way to the limit.

But the Hawks are on the board for the first time, if you can believe it.

If you just tuned in, that's the facts.

♪♪ Now we go to the first of these top dog matches.

Everybody knew Joe Gibbons -- the defending national champion.

You have to have respect that.

But we knew what a roll Kevin Dresser was on the year.

He was only in his second year of starting on the varsity.

So here's a kid, he's getting better by the week, more confident by the week.

And it's like, this kid is capable of winning the national tournament.

And so he went in there not thinking he was an underdog.

Reminded me a little bit about Jeff Gibbons in that last match against Greg Randall.

I mean, he went out there thinking he could win, and that's what you have to get your guys to believe in, thinking that they can win, not keeping it close.

He hit that high cross right off the whistle, and he still doesn't have it, because the whizzer is effective.

Now, this is how wrestlers lose knees, so the referee is looking at this closely.

Being a competitor, aggressor's going to fight this all he can.

He scores the two.

And Gibbons has the takedown.

Move up!

You know, that's where I always wanted to be.

You know, I figured if I could get to my leg, the easy part was finishing, but not tonight.

Brown: Dresser lost the last time out to Luke Scott.

You saw that, perhaps, on Iowa Public Television last Saturday night at Oklahoma State.

Very strange.

He ran out of gas in the last period.

Now Gibbons is in again!

Now, he's got he's got a couple of options here, Doug.

He can't turn the corner and get behind him because he's little too deep this time, so he's going to have to try to get to his feet with the leg or he's gonna have to try to get across it.

There, you see him get across it now and try to scoop it out in front.

I think the thing I remember the most is for me personally, there was a lot on the line.

I felt, I guess, pressure is something that's self-imposed, but it was a good pressure, because I felt there wasn't many times that I was going to be the underdog.

And I knew coming in that this was a chance for me to wrestle a guy that, you know, I got up every morning wanting to beat.

I also felt that this match would give me the number one seed at the NCAA championships in a couple of weeks, so I was really, really focused coming to Hilton Coliseum on that February day.

Brown: Gibbons against Dresser.

Well, I think that loss may ride in his mind a little bit because he lost just last week to Skoll from Oklahoma State after leading 7-1.

And it was a little bit of fatigue, so he hasn't really started real fast.

Just kind of let Joe Gibbons take the offense.

And of course, that's what Joe wants to do.

Looking back now, I'm glad that I had the opponent or situation that I had, because I just had come off a tough loss the weekend before, my only collegiate loss that whole year.

So you kind of take pressure certain ways.

To me, I really needed a test after kind of falling on my face the weekend before.

3-1, Gibbons.

At 142, Dresser is ever dangerous.

He's had a lot of pins this year.

I don't have the record right in front of me.

A single leg again for about the third time by Gibbons.

He scored on one of them.

Now you see him, he's trying to reach through and find that foot.

See that free hand coming there.

Still, the whizzer's effective, and I tell the crowd and you, Doug, this is a dangerous spot on knees.

One real hard rip or twist right there, and Dresser could have a knee injury.

Even though it isn't happening right now, we certainly hope it doesn't.

I always got the reputation for having, I guess, it's just totally God-given blessed that I had like, a trick right knee.

Yeah.

Patten: That's where he wants either across or up on his feet.

Here's where knees go, right here.

3-1.

No scoring being done here.

I think in every match, I got taken down first every time.

Gibbons: I needed to ride you there a little bit, and I didn't.

I kind of let you get away too easy.

But maybe I thought I was going to save it for the next takedown.

Brown: Joe's brother Jim wants him to finish this now.

You got the lead, you're dominating the match.

finish it off.

Gibbons: There it is, right there.

Whoa.

Wow.

That was an unbelievable high crotch.

He caught him leaning.

Yeah.

He went soft hands on him.

Yeah.

Brown: ...on top and making riding time.

It's 3-3.

That's why he's ranked as high as he is.

But again, the knee.

Potentially dangerous.

Gable don't like that.

Yeah.

You know, I agree with that call.

[ Both laugh ] Brown: Not many people take Joe Gibbons down, as a matter of fact.

Not that slick, either.

Not that quick.

That was home right now.

You know, that's why it's surprising.

He just hadn't seen it before.

One, two...

Referee saying, improve on that angle.

You can't stay back there.

[ Buzzer sounds ] 3-3 at the end of two periods.

Well, you got to be good on the bottom.

I don't think either one of us rode each other for more than 15 seconds, ever.

Yeah.

Brown: Iowa needs a win.

Cable: Nice shot.

Gibbons: Yeah.

Patten: He's got to to try to hold him in place.

He doesn't want let those hips free, Doug.

[ Whistle blows ] Yeah, he had to go think about that, but I think... And you were, I mean, I knew you had come off a knee injury, but I was like -- I think my brother Jeff went over there and pinched him and said, "It's senior night, give him a break."

Brown: And that was potentially dangerous.

[ Crowd booing ] Henning: It wasn't a takedown yet.

Potentially dangerous.

[ Crowd clamoring ] Brown: Joe hurt his knee on that move.

See Coach Gable in disbelief, saying, how can he get out of that by doing that?

Again, no takedown because he's still had a chance for the elevator over the top and the toe is being twisted real bad under there.

It's a cheap call, but.. Phil Henning explaining to Dan Gable what was going on.

We're at Hilton Coliseum.

Usually, that second dual meet, you want your guys to go out there -- You can see how he's kind of hyperextending it a little bit, but that's probably going to be 2 most of the time.

Hey, I usually measured my team on that second dual meet that we had at Iowa State, because it was usually, I had more momentum going after that.

I don't know what kind of momentum I had going after this.

Brown: Third period.

Dresser leads 4-3.

National seedings can be at stake here, too.

Oh, yeah.

This is a very important match.

You see what Dresser's doing so well right now is he staying in his good stance, he's keeping his knees bent, keeping his body down in that position to counter Joe's offense, as well as have an offense of his own.

We have 1 minute to go at 142 pounds.

Dresser leads by one.

Now Gibbons has a front headlock.

His head is still not where he wants it to be.

He just kind of has it blocked right there, so he can't have offense.

But Dresser might have offense out of here.

Now there's a single leg by Gibbons.

It's hard to penetrate through a man's head.

You got to get under it.

35 seconds to go.

Dresser made the move.

That keeps the referee off him.

Dresser comes into his right, so he's trying to keep him out of there.

The crowd is in it again, Dresser, Iowa trying to turn it around here after a 9-0 Iowa State lead early.

You see the time.

It's a stall warning against Dresser, but it's not going to hurt him at all.

It's too late for that.

It might if he gets penalized.

I don't think there's time enough to penalize him.

[ Buzzer sounds ] And the winner is Dresser!

[ Cheers, scattered boos ] Big win for Kevin Dresser.

And that's what this Iowa team is made of.

They come down from 9-0.

You're gonna listen to a referee talk to -- He threw his headgear.

Yes, he picked his headgear up and threw it off.

Unsportsmanlike conduct.

Unsportsmanlike conduct, throwing headgear.

Deduct 1 team point.

You know, you could drop it.

You could throw it up in the air and catch it, but you can't toss it wherever you want to toss it.

That's the rules.

You're tossing the headgear.

It's black and white.

That's in the rule book, you throw the headgear.

And it's now instead of 9-6, it's now 9-5.

And here we go with the other one and two man, Krieger against Heffernan.

The Hawks have got it rolling now, and it's going to be up to Krieger to get Iowa State back in.

Dresser wins, throws his headgear, we lose a team point.

I'm like, geez, what else can go wrong here?

In Iowa City, Krieger pushed a good deal.

Heffernan was not terribly aggressive, but he is here.

Boy, he hit in there deep on that one.

Jim took me down the first, I don't know, 10 seconds, and I always felt like Jim could take me down at will if he kept shooting.

Heffernan with Krieger on the bottom.

That was a slick move by the Iowa All-American, ranked number one.

Well, he started with it right away.

Last time, as you say, he was a little apprehensive.

He's pretty tough.

He's got that leg stuck inside.

He's got the arm up around the head and under the other arm.

It does not look like much, but I'll tell you, you can get pinned with that thing.

There's a couple of points in that match where I can specifically remember thinking, "Boy, I almost got pinned right there."

Because he just had some great stuff.

And Iowa has begun to -- dominate these matches a little bit here now.

2-1 is the score.

Heffernan after the escape, still leads by 1.

He was great on his feet.

You know, It always seemed like I wanted to wrestle on our feet, he wanted to wrestle on the mat.

And of course, that could be significant.

Here's where he wants to be.

Back points, that's what he's so good at.

He's really a tough man in that position.

He knows where he is, even though he's underneath.

He's got that arm tight, tight.

Now he's lost an arm, so he'll start to work his way up on top again.

So Krieger takes a lead 3-2.

[ Applause ] [ Buzzer sounds ] At the Hilton Coliseum.

He obviously got the advantage of where we spent too much time on the mat and really limited my time on my feet.

Heffernan takes his choice and takes down.

I don't know if that is a very good decision.

Well, 3-2.

He knows he has to score.

Maybe take up, you think?

Puts himself right back in the snake pit.

When you fish around in the beehive, you'd like to hunt for honey and not for bees.

He's pulling him right back where he wants him again.

He's tough right here.

He'll crowd you to death, break your arms.

No back points.

Here he comes again.

Still no back points.

It's only 3-2, Krieger.

This could go either way.

He's got a couple of minutes riding time on him, and he's piling on him now.

This is not one of Heffernan's great spots.

He might have been better to take another spot.

But as we say, it's only a one-point match.

Well, heck, you know, you can take neutral and then try to take him down and win.

He put him back here where he's so tough.

Now he pulls in the leg on the other side.

He posts him on that knee.

He's got this leg tied up on one side.

Here he comes.

This is where he's good.

Got an arm tied up.

Oh, now he's got his hips.

Oh, he reversed.

He lost him.

It's 4-4.

He's got the leg tied up, too.

But it is riding time for Krieger.

He has enough that he'll have a point on ride time.

He's got to get off the bottom first.

Got to be able to get up.

Heffernan's got to turn him in order to win.

Krieger needs to get his head up off the mat and get up out of there.

Heffernan really has to put on the mustard here.

Krieger: I remember my head coach, Jim, talking to me, and Jim would say -- it's one of things I remember most about his coaching.

He said, "Be a student of the sport," and then, "Think of yourself as a thief."

Steal a little bit from here and a little bit from here and a little bit from here, and you got to make it all your own.

I think he's going to try to put it to him.

Do you think he's going to try to turn him?

I think he's gonna try to turn him here for a second.

Alright, let's see what happens.

Alright, he's got to put him down.

Now he's here -- [ Cheering ] 5-4 Krieger, but a takedown will tie it.

A takedown would, for Heffernan, would be a draw.

And there are only 14 seconds to go.

Oh, boy.

Nice move by Heffernan.

Oh, real nice move.

And a warning against Krieger for going out.

So now Krieger has to go with just 4 seconds, 3 seconds.

[ Buzzer sounds ] It's Krieger.

[ Cheers and applause ] The freshman beats the All-American, and for the second match in a row, we see the number one ranked man lose.

Royce Alger at 158 pounds for Iowa.

We're going into the last lightweights.

Iowa has a good deal of strength through here, so the crowd at Hilton Coliseum saw an upset right at the start, is hoping for some more here.

There's Tate, Bill Tate of Iowa State, fought off finally.

Boom!

Oh, wow.

He hurts.

Henning: Injury time.

An injury at 158 pounds.

I don't remember doing it, but I mean... Yeah, that doesn't look good there.

No.

Look at Jim, trying to figure things out.

I don't think he's trying to do it.

He's trying to push the head away.

I think Royce knew what he was doing.

Patten: I think maybe he catches a knee up in the groin perhaps that just caused him some problems.

Kicked me right there.

You kneed me.

Look, you did it 2 or 3 times.

Call that time out.

That was intentional.

Well, I couldn't let you have any more position.

Brown: As we said in Iowa City, they wrestled, Alger's victory, 11-7 over Tate.

He had to come from behind to do it.

Yeah, he was down 4 to start with.

Tate in that match opened up with a takedown and a near fall.

Well, you know I have a move from there.

I was probably trying to get your head to the outside.

I'd throw that leg in the middle for a Rico roll, so I think that's probably what I was doing.

I thought you were trying to finish, so I was anticipating.

Patten: Biggest match of the meet right now for Iowa State.

If they can get this one, they are definitely a threat to win.

Brown: Because you're starting the second half here.

Everybody calmed down a little bit through the intermission.

People went out got a little popcorn, you know, and the teams have to start over again.

Hopefully, you show this to your kids.

Because, I'm not just your regular -- I mean, I know this sounds vain or something.

"I'm not just your regular Hawkeye wrestler."

I'm the gold standard, in my mind.

Patten: Well, you know, anything can happen, and we all know that, and we understand that.

But Iowa is very strong in these weights, right through here, but Bill Tate has been very representative with Alger in the past.

There's that inside trip.

And Tate has the ability here, but Alger's going after him.

He doesn't have much respect.

He wants to throw.

He wants the inside trip.

Tate's got to throw to get out of it.

What Alger wants is that inside trip.

Whoa!

Oh, boy.

Free throw, there.

Wow, that -- but he didn't end up on his back.

I mean, he came off his back.

Well, he was thinking offense.

He wasn't thinking about getting out of it.

Wow.

That was a nice free throw.

Give me a pound on that.

Very few people in the room could get out of that.

Brown: Tate has been a tough guy this year, 2-1.

He pinned Johnny Johnson of Oklahoma his last time out, although he was far behind when he did it.

When he starts to think that he can, he's going to be a much better performer.

Thinking that he can makes a big difference.

He's wrestling a little apprehensive against Alger and letting Alger have the offense.

Although he's ahead, Alger has been the guy that's been putting the pressure in, and Bill needs to create an offense.

Can't let Alger have the offense like this.

Can't let him have the push, the pressure.

Royce Alger, sophomore from Lisbon, fits right into that mold of -- The average fan would maybe think Bill's not wrestling 100%.

You know, he's backing up a little bit, but he's actually shot more times than Royce.

Royce hardly ever shot, but he tries different techniques and he pushes you, and it's like -- okay, now he did shoot that time.

Just athleticism there, just the scrambling and then take him down.

That was phenomenal.

Alright.

Scored a 2 after the escape.

Now you see his ability, you watch him do those kind of things, and you know that that takes athletic talent that isn't coached.

Those are reaction type of things that you depend on balance and quickness and reaction.

So he can do it on the offense -- here he is.

His really first offensive effort.

He doesn't quite have position, but he's got to get to his feet first.

Look at that.

Look at that.

Get out of there!

Brown: Nice counter by Alger.

Great wrestling.

Tate has to fight through this whizzer to keep from being taken down.

Brown: Got to keep it in.

Got to keep it hard down.

Hit him with the hip.

Alger's got to come in behind him, get the leg, and come to his feet.

Nothing.

Did I get 2 for that or no?

There was no points.

Snap.

Well, at least they're not putting me down.

Oh, man.

See?

Watch me shove my knee into you right there.

That's what I was trying to do to you before.

Oh, boy, you ducked the bullet there, though.

Oh, I did.

[ Both exclaim ] That's where I knew I had -- You like that?

Yeah.

Yeah, alright.

Oh, man.

Brown: There's the end of the first period in a 6-2 lead for Tate.

6-2.

A lot of action that first period.

Gable: Royce almost has him 2 or 3 times, and I'll tell you what, Tate did some good scrambles.

6-2 lead, wow.

Brown: Royce Alger, he doesn't quit.

He just keeps coming.

He's down by 5.

Patten: Well, he hasn't generated an offense yet.

He's just pushing and leaning on him.

If he's going to score, he's going to have to have an offense, because Tate can score.

And here he comes.

Got a position, got extended.

Now he's in on the leg himself.

They're on the edge of the mat.

He just has to finish.

He may not score, but he's going -- He just has to keep Alger from scoring on him.

And he has to be very active, but Alger is also -- Alger is a pinner, too.

He'd like to be able to turn Tate right from this spot.

Royce is probably going on a lot of guts right now.

Brown: 7-2.

Patten: Coach Gable is looking at that with a little bit disgust, wondering how in the heck is this happening?

Look at Gable.

He's not very happy either.

That's -- I'm a little perturbed right there.

I think because it's like, I see something I don't like that -- it's not the score.

I think I'm reading Royce a little -- the pop, the pop.

Whoa, look at that.

Still driving and pulling in on your knees.

That'll tire you out a little bit after a while.

I'm tickled to death with my guy, alright?

Up 7-2 and attacking like that?

Yeah, I'm just -- Look at that.

Patten: Telling him that he's pushing.

Alger's going to just make a little shot.

Tate doesn't need to do this, just keep wrestling offensively.

Brown: You see the time coming down.

We're in the second period.

A lot of time left.

A lot of time.

Throw.

Oh!

Oh!

Are you kidding me?

That was athletic.

You had me!

What the hell?

That might have been 4 in freestyle.

That's stupid.

I didn't want to quit there.

You had my ass there.

We had him.

I think Royce probably thought he had him.

Oh.

But Tate didn't stop.

Yeah.

So they didn't give a takedown there, right?

And escape?

They didn't.

Brown: 7-2.

Tate got 3 takedowns in the first period and an escape in the second, leads Alger.

Patten: He's got the arm tied up now.

This is real dangerous.

Alger: But I am tired there.

Tate: Yeah.

Look at me, man.

I can't believe I'm flattening you out there.

That's not -- Well, no, that is not me.

But you see, this has been a -- Stalemate.

He could have called me for stalling you, straight parallel with you on that.

Patten: Royce has that position, just use it.

He could get called for stalling on top with this thing.

You just got to get out to the side on him.

Iowa State leads in the meet 12-5.

Now, Alger looks like he might get to his feet.

C'mon, Alger, get it.

And I didn't get it.

Brown: Tate still has it.

Oh, that quarter Nelson!

Brown: Tossing Tate to his back!

Oh, and I don't even get 1 out of that.

I'm still down 7-2.

Just the finish twice, which he didn't.

And I'll give Tate the credit.

Watch him come back up.

Come around.

Yeah.

Wow.

Whoa!

Let's go off the mat.

You're down.

[ Laughs ] These guys.

Is he still down or is he on the...?

Yeah, he's down.

Wow.

Oh, my God.

He's got to have riding time.

He's got to have riding time.

Yeah.

Brown: The crowd is up on its feet here at Hilton Coliseum.

We've had a bunch of -- we've had some thrillers one after another here.

Again, Tate gets Alger flat.

Alright, this is it.

He's got the arm now.

Slides it in a chicken wing.

Bad mistake.

This is the end of the match if he keeps it.

All he's got to do now is just bluff well.

[ Cheering ] He's trying to tilt him if he can.

He looks like he he would like to go one way or another with him, get back points.

He's not gonna quit.

He got the back points.

[ Cheering ] The crowd is on its feet at Hilton Coliseum.

They needed to win this one.

They can win this meet!

I think they didn't believe it till right now.

[ Cheers and applause ] Bill Tate upsets Royce Alger 12-5.

10-2, a major decision.

And now the horses are really going to have to get to work.

They know, they can't just be safe and get 3-point decisions.

They've got to go out and try to pin somebody.

I'll tell you that 1 team point deduction, when they lost it, and that major decision against them, those are going to be two critical points in this meet.

VanArsdale on the left for Iowa State against a national champion, Marty Kistler, ranked number one for Iowa.

I figured after Royce got beat, you know, we're coming out with Marty Kistler, defending national champion, really, really dominant that year.

You know, VanArsdale is very good, tough.

We knew he probably wasn't going to get a major, but we were going to win.

VanArsdale has a great deal of talent, and he's a real dangerous wrestler from two spots -- one is from his feet when he gets in and he can throw.

The other is when he's in the down position and he gets that switch working.

Kistler is just very well-rounded, real solid, doesn't give anything up.

And is intense.

And is intense and can go the route, we say in wrestling.

Marty Kistler and I had a history.

And I can tell you, it started way before that dual meet.

Yes, I remember.

He was a very tough opponent.

My older brother Lindley got to wrestle him first and Lindley got lucky -- he beat him.

After my high school senior year, I decided to win Junior Nationals.

So Royce Alger invited me down to Iowa City to train.

So who did we train with?

The Kistler brothers, Marty, Lindley and Harlan.

And I was getting pretty much destroyed until day three, and on day three, I was able to put Marty on his back with some throws and beat him.

And the crazy thing about that was I remember Royce grabbing me and saying, "We got to leave now because I'm tired, you're tired, we're ready to go, and these guys aren't going to stand for you beating their brother.

You're going to go until you lose."

And I said, "I'm not going with him again."

I was really afraid to go with him again, because I was so exhausted from the pressure of trying to beat these guys.

So we act like we're going to restroom, we grab our stuff, and went swimming -- ran, ran, out, gone.

So I was a great stunt back then.

We watch this match go, and so far, Kistler hasn't been able to do penetration, one... Mike is a stud himself, and like I say, the rangyness and all the things he brings to the table, Marty just -- it was just a hard-fought match, but one that we were pretty confident we were going to win.

Marty Kistler, two-time Big 10 champion, last year, national titleholder at 158.

He was runner-up the year before.

What he's doing is he's right on -- He takes that away.

Escape for VanArsdale.

It's now 1-0.

But of course, VanArsdale is going to have to get some offense going, too.

Both men have been warned.

Well, he has some, you know, it's just that he hasn't used it.

There's a little fake drag into the single.

He's going to try to step past the foot.

If he can get past the foot, then he can start to follow the leg on out.

The whizzer is keeping him down under.

And we're very early in the period.

A lot of time for Kistler to try to bring this hold home.

What he's got to do is try to find the foot on the other side.

If he isn't going to get to his feet, he's got to try to come to the other side.

VanArsdale is going to try to switch him off of this.

[ Whistle blows ] No, no, no!

Out of bounds.

No score.

I didn't have an easy match against Iowa ever, ever.

[ Whistle blows ] If you missed a little of this match, this meet so far, Perry Summitt pinned Matt Egeland.

That was really the tempo start.

That got the ball going for Iowa State.

4:24 in the match, he pinned Egeland.

Kelly beat Penrith 5-2.

Now, you see -- Hie did a nice little duck under there.

Got the hip.

[ Cheering ] At 134, Randall beat Jeff Gibbons 8-4.

Then Dresser probably took over the number one rating by beating Joe Gibbons in a heck of a match, 4-3.

But Krieger upset -- well, I don't know if you'd call it an upset, but he beat Heffernan at 150 for Iowa State 6-4, and then Bill Tate got a major decision over Royce Alger.

In a surprising turn of events for a lot of people, the Hawks also lost a team point when Dresser after his victory, just forgot what he was doing and threw his headgear.

And that's a loss of a team point for unsportsmanlike conduct.

It's Iowa State 16, Iowa 5.

Well, they're winning this match right now.

Now they're ahead 1-0, although Kistler has done most of the offensive effort.

He's just got penalized.

Now there's the point.

We're even.

That's the one I was looking for.

How long is that going to take for that to happen?

Every single time I wrestled, it'd be one second left in the period.

"Oh, that's 1 point."

"What?

Are you serious?"

No, I warned both of them for stalling before the end of the first period, because they were -- They were both, uh, they were not penetrating.

There were just kind of pushing and that was it.

I just never understood why this was a requirement only when I wrestled Iowa.

I wrestled anybody else in the country, I wasn't.

I was doing what Eddie said.

"Wrestle hard and win, do your best."

The guy was good.

They're good.

Their fight for ground in the wrestling room.

They made me look maybe like something was going on.

There was no stall.

Are you kidding me, Phil.

Come on.

Okay, now that I've done that, I feel better about myself.

Brown: VanArsdale on top.

Biding time, has switched over into his column now.

It doesn't appear there's going to be a point here, but it's 1-1.

Patten: Well, it might be.

You know, he's got keep him down.

He's gotta keep Kistler on the map, and he's good enough to do that.

Just got to pressure him some.

If he keeps letting him get up here, eventually he'll -- he'll lose it.

There's the leg he wants.

Marty Kistler of Iowa with a 1-1 score.

Started on the bottom in this third period, and wants to come out.

Two, three, four, five.

[ Whistle blowing ] [ Crowd booing ] True story.

He had to give out the stalling point..

It's typical of Iowa, Iowa State rivalry.

I don't know.

What can you say?

It was it was a good meet.

Brown: 1-1 is the score.

An escape for VanArsdale.

A penalty point against VanArsdale.

In the second period.

VanArsdale is tough on top.

Now Kistler is out.

And it's 2, Kistler.

We haven't seen VanArsdale have an offense yet, but he's still in this match mentally.

Which means that he might -- might generate an offense and score.

[ Whistle blows ] I mean, he doesn't -- he doesn't act beaten.

He hasn't shown it on his face.

He's not showing it in his style.

40 seconds to go.

He's still in there aggressively.

He'll go ahead and hit one of those shots, he might score on it.

And Marty Kistler on the edge of the mat.

And he's been warned for stalling also.

So he's got to be able to press the advantage right here.

We have only 21 seconds to go.

[ Whistle blows ] Now Kistler is where he wants to be.

That's what he wants.

He's got to be able to -- he's got to be able to stay down toward the foot.

Don't get up where the hips can hurt him.

VanArsdale got to hit the move right here.

He got an opportunity.

He can't wait for him.

Gotta throw that thing.

[ Buzzer ] And Kistler wins.

Did he give him two?

No.

No riding time.

It's a one-point match.

Kistler 2, VanArsdale 1.

The Hawks are wrestling tired in this match.

Yeah, it is true.

Alright, three points now for Iowa.

That brings them up closer and closer.

16-8, Iowa State still leads in this big meet at Hilton Coliseum.

You're watching on Iowa Public Television.

We go to 177.

Iowa is definitely favored here.

It's Rico Chiapparelli, ranked number three, up against Bob Gassman.

177, it was Chiapparelli against Gassman.

And when I was watching that match I know Chiapparelli.

I've watched him wrestle before.

I know how dangerous he is.

He counters you so well.

You do a lot of the work and he ends up with the score.

And it's one of those things where he's a the kind of guy that won two or three state championships in high school without having a lot of offense, but his offense is his, basically, his reaction to and the defense of what you do to him.

And if you don't do it really well, you're going to be in trouble.

Whereas in Gassman, I thought that he might have a chance if Chiapparelli made a mistake, but he didn't make mistakes.

Iowa State has the number five ranked heavyweight in John Heropoulos.

Gassman gets it on the leg.

He's been here before now.

With Chiapparelli you just gotta be careful when you try to take him down.

Look at that balance.

Look at that.

Oh, he's so dangerous.

Chiapparelli that takedown.

You know, Rico Chiapparelli, you know, what can you say?

I mean, that he was fun to watch.

I mean, he was fun for other coaches to watch.

The fans to watch.

This is why it's generally considered the meat of the Iowa lineup, the really tough guys, where their dominance against the Iowa State opponent might come.

That they thought they might dominate the last one.

They had to fight for their life to win, so, you now, you never know.

So far it's gone a long way.

He's not doing what he wants to do.

I'm sure Chiapparelli, from Iowa is not getting him over, and that's what he thinks he should be doing.

And I -- and I think Rico was maybe a little bit of the wild card because anything could happen with Rico's matches and he could put you on your back and pin you in a hurry.

So I think everybody was kind of, you know, thinking, well, we still got kind of an ace in the hole with Rico in terms of maybe getting some extra bonus points with a pin.

There's the end of the first period.

2-0 Chiapparelli.

Heffernan: We had a lot of good guys on our team.

You know, and if something did go wrong, we had enough good guys where, generally speaking, we could make up for it.

You know, especially at the end, we have, you know, Marty Kistler, Rico Chiapparelli and Doug Goldman, three of the last four matches.

I mean, those -- those guys are studs.

I mean, you're going to win a lot of dual meets if you got to depend on those guys.

What the referee say?

You're going to have to do something with the leg or I'm going to start calling stalling on you.

He'll take Chiapparelli, if he does that, he'll take Chiapparelli out of his offense.

Chiapparelli manages to get the legs in again.

He's piling up riding time, a lot of it.

He leads 2-0 and he has almost 2.5 minutes worth of riding time.

But he really hasn't scored on top except for that riding time.

[ Whistle blows ] Referee: Warning top man against blanket riding.

Alright, a warning.

It's a warning.

There's Harold Nichols, has to be pleased with the way his old charges are working.

A lot of people are going to wish they were here.

I'll tell you, 16-8, Iowa State leads.

And Chiapparelli turns Gassman loose.

With a lot of riding time, he assumes he's going to have to score from the feet.

Well, that that stalling call against Chiapparelli from Iowa for blanket riding on top is going to really change the outcome of how this match might go.

Just a funky wrestler, and he was a funky human being.

And he takes a little bit of time to work the offense.

Not that it's wrong, it's just that he's got to... We saw this one other time.

Gassman's there.

Uh-oh, uh-oh.

Uh-oh.

Grabbing the knee.

Uh-oh.

[ Screams ] An injury, and I'm afraid that this may be one of them.

You hate to see it.

Well, we've seen a lot of guys in those spots.

In this match you get dinged up and he gets hurt a little bit.

And one of the things you're thinking about as a coach, you're thinking, you know, let's get through this meet healthy.

And that's one of the major concerns.

Gassman is on his feet and he's going to go.

And that gets the crowd in it again.

Yes, coach... Let's listen to this.

...before control is initiated.

It's 2-1, Chiapparelli leads.

And Gassman's been there.

Here he is again.

This time he goes up high.

He changed off more tightly.

Again, Chiapparelli is like -- he's like a cobra up there waiting to strike.

because he's so dangerous as a counter wrestler.

You know, I was hoping that Rico would pin him because that's what he was known for.

And I think he was, you know, he was certainly heavily favored in that match.

And he was going out there and looked like he was going to dominate, possibly get a pin and he just did the things Rico did.

You don't want to get up around Chiapparelli's waist.

Get up higher than that, it'll get you in trouble.

And again his knee hurt.

But two points for take down for Chiapparelli.

And injury time is called again.

Is the meat really worth the athlete that I'm going to have at the national tournament?

If this is the guy I've got, I'd rather have him at the national tournament than I would have win this dual meet or try to win this match.

They don't want to take this thing too far, and they don't want to lose six points for a default.

Gassman isn't going to let them.

Nobody as a coach -- I never want to see the other guy get injured.

We want to compete and most guys don't want to win that way.

I mean, usually they're, most of the time, they're all accidents like that, but Rico was just pretty dominant performance.

Seven seconds to go.

Seven seconds to go in the second period.

Chiapparelli is leading by three.

But just hit a spiral right there in attempt to stop him.

Alright, now we got one period to go.

Iowa State leads Iowa 16-8.

We're at 177 pounds.

We have Goldman.

We don't know who's coming up next.

Maybe Goldman.

It may be Voelker.

It may be Metzger.

It may be Raleigh Kane.

There's going to be some coaching strategy here.

Chiapparelli goes on the bottom.

His good leg is the one that he's trying to protect.

Chiapparelli took the down position because he thinks he can score.

It gives him one more point, gives him an opportunity then to come back and maybe get that major decision.

And out comes Chiapparelli.

Leads 5-1.

It's important, every point matters here because the meet is so close.

Take down for Chiapparelli, 7-1.

Referee: Two.

Watch the knee.

Might be wise right now to just cut him loose.

Unless he can turn him over, just cut him loose because he's been penalized in this position.

Gassman's just basing out, trying not to get turned.

And he has riding time.

And so if you were able to get out and take another takedown... Gassman against Chiapparelli.

There's Rico, only a junior.

He's wrestling as fresh as any of the guys on the team so far have.

Like, he understands what's going on, what he has to do, staying with it.

And he does.

Let the escape go.

It's 7-2.

It's actually a 6-point difference because Chiapparelli will get a riding time point.

And if the takedown comes...

However, Gassman has not been warned yet.

Well, he's been -- he was the offensive wrestler almost the whole match.

All of a sudden, he just stopped.

A big takedown for Chiapparelli.

Maybe he's gonna try to find something.

Yeah, like that.

Yeah, I might just try to -- just try to finish.

Now it's 9-3, a 7-point difference.

And here's the place where Gassman needs to go.

Makes a difference of a point and his team.

Unfortunately, he's gonna lose it again.

And now Chiapparelli definitely has a major decision, 11-3.

[ Whistle blows ] An 8-point difference with riding time.

As soon as there's pressure on that knee, Gassman goes away.

He's trying to stay loose with that knee.

Chiapparelli would like to get some back points, maybe.

Two, three...

But the match ends.

Riding time for Chiapparelli, and it's a major decision, 12-3, for Rico Chiapparelli over Gassman of Iowa State.

And so the Hawkeyes have won two in a row.

And here comes Goldman.

He comes out first.

He doesn't have to do that.

Well, he doesn't have to stay there.

It's going to be Voelker.

It's going to be Eric Voelker coming out for Iowa State at 190 pounds.

It's the first time out since he wrestled against Goldman last time.

Boy, you don't think there's electricity in this hall because Iowa State still leads by four.

When we came into this meet, though, I had already been like Really beaten up by Duane Goldman in the previous match, and I -- I wanted to beat him and I did bring my very best, but I didn't know that I could because I wasn't there yet.

I was a freshman, you know, a freshman up against -- redshirt freshman up against a senior who was so much stronger than me and probably better conditioned at that point and mentally very tough.

When I wrestled him the first time he was 18 and zero, He had won the Las Vegas tournament, and he was the outstanding wrestler there, but I had never seen him wrestle before.

I mean, obviously there was no flow wrestling, there was no anything.

And so I'd never really had the opportunity.

I just -- I just knew of him and -- and kind of what he had done.

The first time these two men met in Iowa City, Goldman won 10-4.

That was the only collegiate takedown I lost that year was in that first match.

Recognizing that you just can't go through somebody that strong, but I tried.

[ Laughs ] Alright, it was a stress fracture in there.

This time Goldman can't -- see him coming in with that wild double leg.

Beautiful shot.

Caught him a little off balance right there.

He was going one way and he came back and just had the arm trap.

Almost caught him on his back.

I understand that it doesn't matter whether you're a senior or a freshman or anything in that dual, because I went through the same experience when I was a freshman, and I remember coming out of high school and being in Hilton, and it -- was a it was a close match.

And coming out onto the mat as a freshman, and I had never heard a sound like that.

I remember pulling my headgear away from my head because it was so loud in Hilton of people cheering against you.

Goldman is such an outstanding wrestler.

He spent his three years in a row as runner up in the nationals after winning Big Ten titles.

He is undefeated at 26-0.

The pressure on Duane Goldman having been in the finals three times, to the pinnacle three times and he and he didn't win in those, and like how he thinks about that and how do you package that.

Lost three national titles in, you know, I was second three times.

So three national titles in a row I was in the finals.

But, man, every one of those I don't feel -- I wish I would have one more, but I don't feel like...

I necessarily should have worn more.

I feel like I could have won more, but not necessarily that I should have.

They were all three great wrestlers.

Referee: Stalemate.

It's been a thriller.

There's Heropoulos talking to his coach, Eddie Banach, who was on the Iowa team the last time Iowa State beat Iowa in 1981.

So during the 190-pound match, it was becoming apparent to me the gravity of the situation.

The dual meet was probably going to come down to the heavyweight match.

[ Whistle blows ] Crowd got into -- got into it a little bit when Goldman went back on the foot.

2-0, Goldman over Voelker.

That's Gibbons.

He's about to experience a first real big win of his life, and he's had some big wins.

Well, if he can get it.

That was the most confident I had seen Duane, and I felt great about him during that time and not that it was important, but I just remember thinking that I don't know how this guy is going to lose just the way he was wrestling at that point in his career.

What he's gotta do is keep the hips high, take him out.

[ Cheers and applause ] Eric Voelker.

He's in -- he's in trouble right here.

In a state, that's a lot of power.

You know, I did a lot of training with Goldman both on and off the mat.

And, you know, he was on a quest to win.

And here he's got a guy that we all know that eventually became, you know, a terrific, great wrestler himself, But he was young.

And you go up against a guy that's been a three-time All-American, three-time NCAA finalist, and you're trying to survive out there.

And Goldman did a great job of just wearing him down.

he was strong.

He was in great shape.

He worked his tail off.

You know, we didn't want anything to get in the way of Duane Goldman winning the NCAA championship that year.

And that -- that was just right along the way.

And, you know, give him credit because he took it from a guy that says, you know, that became as good as anybody out there.

Iowa has to win both matches.

Iowa has to win both of them.

Got him extended.

Got him extended.

And Goldman spins around and scores.

Makes it 7-1, 7-2 after the escape.

Mark Sindlinger is going to wrestle for Iowa at heavyweight and John Heropoulos for Iowa State.

And as it happens so many times in the past, this meet comes down to the heavyweight match.

And it's fun, I must say, to have it happen.

That's right.

You see that picture there of Coach Gable.

He's not sitting passively in the chair anymore.

He's up and getting some instructions there.

I can't -- I don't want to screw this up, you know?

At that point, because it was so far along.

Iowa State has not had anything happen here to their advantage since 158.

It's going to be tempo now.

A warning against Voelker.

Jim Gibbons is a little discouraged about that, and he calls the referee over.

Now, he's gonna have to watch what he says.

Eric took the shot to get him there in the first place.

This is over a period of time.

He's been tying, he's holding on, tying up.

He's been backing off.

He takes a shot every once in a while, but this has been over a period of time.

And he just backed off that.

He shot right there -- I understand what you're saying, but -- but it's been for a period of time.

Brown: That's certainly a remark.

Sindlinger, starting center on the Iowa football team.

Well, of course he'd like to make it a three-point decision, because then a draw on heavyweight would win for Iowa State.

Patten:That's right.

That's why this takedown that Goldman wants is so important.

Can't afford to let him tie him up like that.

There's just one arm blocking it, and Goldman gets it.

That was a big takedown.

Oh, such a big one.

It's just on both sides.

Just how many great wrestlers there are.

How many there were in that dual meet.

Just the real impact of what that dual meet had for Iowa, maybe going into the next year for Iowa State, maybe going into the next year, and just the importance of it.

What I enjoy watching so much in these, not just the wrestling, but how important that rivalry is to the fans.

Well, it's going to be exactly tied right now.

It is 16-16 going to heavyweight A major decision for Goldman Against Eric Voelker.

You know the dual wasn't over.

Iowa came roaring back.

And we want the story that will make the biggest splash.

So in that regard, I was pulling for Iowa State because an upset would have -- was bigger news.

And it's all up to the heavyweights.

And the crowd at Hilton Coliseum is on its feet.

About 9,000 people here.

Here comes John Heropoulos, for Iowa State, black number 5.

Sindlinger is a first, is a crackerjack and he's a lot bigger than Heropoulos.

Sindlinger was a guy that, you know, here's a star athlete at the University of Iowa.

Man, what a career he had in both sports.

But he's a young guy, he's coming off football, so he wasn't in great shape.

He was nicked up a little bit.

He wasn't quite 100% healthy, so I was nervous about it.

But I still thought, this is -- this is prime time.

This is what you -- this is what you get into athletics for.

Said they'll go out and, man, win the meet for us.

So I felt pretty good.

I thought we were going to win.

You can neutralize Heropoulos, but it's hard to be able to take him out of position because he maintains -- already back on his feet -- maintains good position.

I had not ever wrestled him.

I knew he was ranked and I knew the coaches.

I mean, Coach Banach was working out with him.

And so, I mean, I knew, you know, a little bit about what he did and what to expect in the match.

Yes, if you just joined us at this time, it's the Iowa/Iowa State meet Heropoulos in on a single leg.

Against a lot of power, and gets the takedown.

[ Cheers and applause ] Boy, you don't think this crowd is up now.

I think it's just the beginning, Doug.

There's Heropoulos leading 2-0, riding on top.

On to the other side.

He's a doing good job here of just switching sides, keeps Sindlinger from finding him.

You can't locate him down there.

Now he breaks him them again.

Finds the arm.

He hasn't been able to get that arm up where he can use it, but Sindlinger is on the bottom.

Now he is it Well, he'd go over if he can get this.

He's got the headlock.

Sindlinger will take that elbow out the other side.

Got the pressure down in the right spot.

He's gotta be able to take that elbow.

Didn't work.

Sindlinger is out.

After the 190-pound match, when I walked out, a lot of things kind of flashed through my mind.

I mean, I thought to myself how far I'd come from just the year before where, you know, it'd been a mediocre transfer year.

And I also felt for an instant tremendous pressure, almost a little bit of panic.

John, just go out there and wrestle smart and you're going to be fine, we're going to win this match.

That's the danger of it, of course.

You know, you either put him on his back or he gets out.

He's he's right where he wants to be anyway.

If he got him on his back, that's bonus, because this is where Heropoulos wants to wrestle Sindlinger, on his feet.

Sindlinger is tough.

[ Whistle blows ] Big tough heavyweight from Iowa.

He said he was the center on the Iowa football team that went to the Rose Bowl, a starting center.

Well, Sindlinger is off the football squad, and even though he's a great high school wrestler, if that's what he would have done, is gone to Iowa and wrestled, I'm sure that it would have been a different kind of story, but he didn't.

He played football, and so football shape and wrestling shape are totally different.

Sindlinger: Playing all the games that we did, I wasn't in wrestling shape, so that's just part of what I knew what I was getting into with that.

So I just had to really focus and work hard when I got the opportunity to get on the wrestling mat.

He's 6-1 in his brief season so far.

Heropoulos in on the leg again.

He stopped the motion right there, but he didn't take him out of position so here's Heropoulos back with the ability to score.

Nice butterfly.

And the crowd at Hilton Coliseum is beginning to smell a little blood.

Oh, they got the feeling, and Coach Gibbons is leading the row.

He's a cheerleader now.

Yeah, there's the end of the first period.

And it's 4-1, Heropoulos over Sindlinger.

Sindlinger gets his choice and he wants to go down.

John Heropoulos was a diamond in the rough.

And how do you get him, you know, polished up?

And we worked on it.

The most fortuitous thing for me was when Jim hired Ed Manach and I became his, you know, pet project, so to speak, and we spent many hours training together.

Oh, the crowd is up again.

It's been a lot of excitement here.

We're happy to bring it to you on our 10th anniversary season of college wrestling.

And what a finish, no matter how this pans out.

That's right.

Sindlinger is dangerous.

These are heavyweights.

They are tough.

Heropoulos is...

He's got the cradle locked on his back.

Sindlinger in a cradle.

And this is what can happen.

Yeah, I felt really good starting the second period.

I think I had a 4-1 lead, and the first thing I did is I think I put a deep waist in which I hadn't really -- a deep waist I hadn't done in the prior period and was immediately rolled and put into a cradle.

So for an instant there, that didn't feel too good.

Well, your expectations start to rise.

All sudden he's got a cradle locked up.

Could this be it?

And I think I'd been cradled for several years.

I just remembered from high school someone saying you grabbed your own ankle and try to break the grip, which I couldn't do, but that's what I was trying to do.

Sindlinger in a good position for Iowa on the top.

It's 16-16 lead.

We're tied at heavyweight.

Heropoulos has his arm through.

There we go!

Heropoulos.

[ Cheers and applause ] Some thrilling moments.

Well, he's got him locked in the same -- about the same position, no arms locked yet.

And it's...

If he stays in that between the legs right there, he's got every opportunity to take this whole period away from Sindlinger and maybe turn him over.

Got to keep between the lines.

It could happen.

Because we're in the second period, it's 6-3, Heropoulos over Sindlinger.

a good match.

Very good match here at heavyweight, and it will decide this meet because we're tied, my friend, at 16-16.

Iowa and Iowa State.

[ Whistle blows ] Heropoulos listening to his coach, Eddie Manach.

They're telling him what to do next time.

They want him to watch out for that roll.

That's what Sindlinger caught him the last time.

He had the deep waist and up on a half.

And Dan Gable at Iowa.

He hasn't lost a dual meet since two years ago, 36 meets.

And there goes Heropoulos on charge, again on top.

He flattens Sindlinger down, takes the arm.

See here he's blocking the head again now.

To really make this work effectively, he's got to scoop the head in underneath him.

He's got the arm out there, but it has to be able to scoop the head with the knee.

Right here you see him start to take the knee.

Now he's got to be able to scoop the head in and then block that elbow out.

There's end of the second period, Heropoulos by three.

Like I said, as each second ticks down, it's like, okay, John, this is why you trained hard and this is the result of that training.

Here's where Heropoulos low level attack is going to be to his advantage.

Sindlinger can only win with a throw right now.

Heropoulos will shoot that, go back to that low level attack, take away Sindlinger's only chance to win.

Like that Most of the third period, although I was offensive, I didn't have any really deep leg attacks, but I did maintain good position.

Iowa and Iowa State.

I know some people from "Sports Illustrated" are here this week, and they saw a thriller.

I suppose they're taking a chance coming out and watching a wrestling match, you know, for "Sports Illustrated."

Head and arm control up top, the front headlock by Sindlinger.

That's just keeping him from getting taken down.

It's generating an offense.

Heropoulos can do this all day.

This is to his advantage.

Just take the low level attack.

That's what he does best.

There it is again.

Uh-oh.

Sindlinger got a little bit of a good position there.

What John Heropoulos does so well for Iowa State is he does not lose position when he hits the outside attack.

That's what makes him -- that's what makes him dangerous there.

1:02 to to go.

7-3.

Heropoulos leads.

Let's set it up again.

It's 16-16.

Iowa State 16, Iowa 16.

Number one team against the number two at Hilton Coliseum.

The rematch of these two state powers.

And as Heropoulos at heavyweight against Sindlinger.

Don't go away after the meat will tell you how it happened, and we'll show you a lot of what else is going on.

Heropoulos made the shot.

Sindlinger needs a throw.

He needs a pin.

I don't think he's going to get it.

And we're not going to be able to talk this last 30 seconds anyway, Doug.

Listen to this crowd.

[ Cheers and applause ] Heropoulos taking the shots.

He's got good position.

It's beginning to look like Iowa State is going to upset Iowa.

You bet.

At Hilton Coliseum.

And countdown.

And it's Iowa State the winner.

[ Cheers and applause ] Maisel: There's nothing better than the euphoria of a home crowd that just knocked off the king.

And, you know, you want as a sportswriter to soak that in, to be able to relay it and explain it to your readers, and the fact that Jim's brothers were there to lift him up, I thought was really cool.

Coach Jim Gibbons up on his -- all the Iowa State coaches, are getting a ride.

Well, are you glad you showed up or not?

I see Iowa State President Robert Parks is out on the mat.

He's a wrestling fan, and he's coming out to shake the coach's hand, too.

Maybe you'll get a shot of him.

There he is.

He's a big wrestling fan.

Eddie Banach talking with his old coach.

Gibbons: It was an incredible win.

As you see, our university president comes down on the mat and, you know, I raise his hand and, you know, he helped give me the opportunity to coach at Iowa State.

So it was a big moment for me, but you know, I fully knew that the Nationals were going to be the big deal.

And we wanted to go over to Iowa City where the Nationals were, and being their rival, we wanted to take it away from them and Carver.

See if C.P.

can line up the boss here of this young Iowa State team that just upset the Iowa Hawkeyes, 19-16.

It wasn't a good time in the locker room, for one.

I think when we got back in that locker room, it was pretty easy to get focused and get -- start getting ready for what we needed to do.

Gable was -- gave a speech to the team, and started talking about who was working out and who was doing this when we get back.

And everybody was really emotional.

You know, we were the number one team in the country.

We're the, you know, defending national champs.

You know, just beat Oklahoma State pretty soundly I think, and going into this dual meet and I think maybe we started questioning ourselves a little bit.

So I think the discussions we had in the locker room was just venting a little bit and a little bit of emotion.

I can just imagine what Gable was going through.

And he was thinking, okay, I lost, my team lost, but this is what I did and this is what I got to do to my team.

And he had full, everybody was in.

I mean, we were in.

Whatever he said, we were going to do and we were going to like it, but maybe not like it, but we were going to do it.

[ Laughs ] Did we have a choice?

You know, it's like on the ride home.

[ Chuckles ] The mythology of the ride home.

On the way back, you know, I won my match, so we obviously were in the happy van.

Yeah, I remember that story, but that's all I'm going to say about that story.

[ Laughs ] Of course, the rumor was the next day that Gable was so mad at us, especially that group of guys, that he made us get out, put our sweats on, put our running shoes on and made us run home from that rest stop in the middle of this driving snowstorm because we lost the dual meet.

My mom asked me that the other day because -- because when we found out we were going to do this.

"Did Dan -- did Dan, did you guys really get off that bus?"

And we were going for our ninth straight, so rumor is I stopped the bus nine miles out, made him run all them nine miles.

You know?

I'm not going to tell you for sure if that's fact or fiction, but it did cause a rule to become in effect.

You know, there's been a lot of talk about that van ride and where we stopped and where the guys got off, and we kind of keep that in house because that's that's something that's -- I remember well, and I remember a lot of people talking about it.

We just all kind of, you know, some people wink, some people said it was true, some people didn't.

And we'll kind of leave it there.

I doubt it if that happened because it was it was so cold out.

I mean, there's no way a human being would do that to another human being.

Well, Gable might, but, you know?

Once they heard about that, they said, well, you can't work your kids out after matches anymore.

That same day.

And I could have come up and said, I don't know if that really happened, but I'm not going to tell the truth one way or the other right now, but -- but then I know for sure that -- And I can tell you a fact though, that when we got back, we had a wrestling practice.

So it was nine miles and then a wrestling practice.

Whether those nine miles are fact or fiction, I'm not going to say, but... we did have a wrestling practice that night.

Nowadays or something like that happen that would be -- that would be a major fiasco.

And so, you know, whether it did, whether it didn't, whether -- whatever the facts of the stories are, I just know if it was nine miles, my dad would have said, "Why didn't you stop 10 miles out?"

I got hit hard here, but it wasn't like you couldn't turn it around because I just had some a lot of good wrestlers.

See, he hasn't been around losing very much in his life, and that's what the attraction is to be around him as an athlete, even as a coach.

Just said we just didn't do the right things it took to win and, you know, this season is remembered at the end of the year, which most of our years are.

It's just -- that's the nature of our sport.

I think what puts Iowa State's victory into perspective is what happened at Nationals, when Iowa welcomed the NCAA's into Carver-Hawkeye and just cleaned everybody's clock.

Brown: But the University of Iowa, it was a tremendous day.

They wrapped up the team title, the NCAA wrestling championships, before the finals began, and then in the finals, they really came through it.

126 pounds Brad Penrith, Kevin Dressler won at 142, Heffernan at 150, Marty Kistler at 167 and Duane Goldman at 190 pounds.

Duane Goldman had tried three times before, he captured it today.

You get six out of your eight guys in the finals, five of them winning.

I mean, that's just astounding.

And you can make a pretty good case that those '86 Hawkeyes were -- if they weren't the best college wrestling team ever, you know, they're in the argument.

And then later on that year in the summer when we go off to the Cyclone Club tours and all that, we get standing ovations.

Good Lord, we were number one in the country and we finished fourth, but we beat Iowa on Iowa, you know, PBS, and our fan base was ecstatic about where the program was.

There's nothing like it.

Iowa, Iowa State, it's the -- it's the, you know, it's one of the best shows on Earth.

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